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From: Igor <lanthruster@×××××.com>
To: Jeroen Roovers <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:37:58
Message-Id: 52ced05c.aa78980a.7a02.48ba@mx.google.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS by Jeroen Roovers
1 Hello Jeroen,
2
3 Thursday, January 9, 2014, 7:55:42 PM, you wrote:
4
5 I was expecting you a few hours earlier, Jeroen. I knew you
6 wouldn't resist a terrible temptation remembering the Python Bug
7 that I filed from the old kernel gentoo.
8
9 For your information this is a confirmed bug in Python right now and
10 it is going to be fixed in 3.5
11
12 http://bugs.python.org/issue20065
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14 Jeroen, tell me how many users world wide do not prefer to upgrade Gentoo
15 on automated basis? There are important servers, and there are many
16 cases when after upgrade server stops. Do you remember that recent udev
17 change? And there are many similar cases. Imagine that your server
18 is running a reactor. So what would you prefer to keep it running the
19 reactor as it did flawlessly for 8 years or launch an upgrade taking
20 the risks to blast yourself?
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22 Many be it's not only me, but somebody else who is thinking the same?
23 Are you sure that the majority of Gentoo users are indulged in
24 paranoid automated upgrade and then spending time fixing damage
25 that upgrade did?
26
27 Do you have a car? Why you don't change EVERY detail in your car on a new
28 version on daily basis automatically?
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30 Why don't you change car as soon as a new version is released? Why not
31 changing the new mouse, new keyboard, new monitor, new supply daily as
32 soon as there is a new version?
33
34 Not to mention that you can change daily appearances.
35
36 I belive that each users has the right to decide how to use Gentoo.
37 I have my reasons not to upgrade some servers.
38
39 And you, being a support team has no right to mock on your users
40 weather they're right or not. You don't make users feel bad, you
41 help them. One mocked user, another and there is no users to mock
42 about.
43
44 And you need users to mock more than they need you.
45
46 >> >> For various reasons many techs were not implemented and now Gentoo
47 >> >> is in a
48 >> > kind of stagnation.
49 >>
50 >> > What do you mean by that in particular?
51 >>
52 >> Gentoo stopped.
53
54 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298754
55 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439378
56 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455908
57 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495002
58
59 > It looks like the only thing that is stagnating is your Gentoo Linux
60 > install.
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66 --
67 Best regards,
68 Igor mailto:lanthruster@×××××.com

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