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From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:26:13
Message-Id: 4A0EDB03.60605@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55) by Nirbheek Chauhan
1 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
2 > Let's not blatantly ignore our REAL problems. We can no longer afford
3 > to maintain the status-quo of pedantic masturbatory discussions on the
4 > finer points of ebuild formats. We cannot AFFORD to look the other way
5 > while the distro rots away.
6 >
7
8 What exactly is your proposal? Ban discussion of GLEP 55? I doubt less
9 posts on GLEP 55 will mean more developers joining arch teams instead,
10 or whatever.
11
12 People work on the things they want to work on. If they want to work on
13 EAPIs that is fine by me - that is forward progress. The solution to
14 progress in one area and not another is not to stop the area that is
15 moving forward.
16
17 Sure, if there were actual resource contention at stake that would make
18 sense. However, if you tell a dev not to work on A but instead to work
19 on B the most likely outcomes are that they'll:
20 1. Work on A anyway.
21 2. Start a separate project to work on A if you actively prevent them
22 from doing so.
23 3. Work on C, or D, or on nothing at all.
24
25 At best they might give B a token effort. After all, if they wanted to
26 work on B they would have done so in the first place. By all means
27 advertise needs in case people aren't aware of them and find them
28 interesting, but you can put a gun to people's heads and tell them what
29 to do.
30
31 If you want more people in the arch team start with the -user mailing
32 list and take time to mentor somebody who is interested in maintaining
33 packages as a dev. Or, if you'd rather donate money to a fund to offer
34 to pay people to do maintenance.