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On 09/17/14 10:13, Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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> On 17/09/14 16:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>> On 17/09/2014 14:49, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: |
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>>> On 2014-09-17 14:20, vivo75@×××××.com wrote: |
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>>>> Il 17/09/2014 14:09, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto ha scritto: |
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>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Luca Barbato wrote: |
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>>>>>> The bc utility is part of the posix tools and it might be used to build |
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>>>>>> linux among the other stuff. |
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>>>>> Luca, |
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>>>>> bc is not in the system set and is a dependency of the kernel or any |
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>>>>> other package that needs it, so why do we need to include a package |
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>>>>> that takes ~20 seconds to build? |
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>>>> Most people don't use the ebuild for the kernel |
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>>> That's a rather outrageous and difficult to substantiate claim. Given |
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>>> what I've seen in the forums and on IRC, it would appear the reverse |
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>>> is true; most people use the ebuild for the kernel. |
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>>> I wouldn't consider people who deviate from the supported methods as |
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>>> our concern. If you're smart enough to do that and want to make your |
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>>> own path, you're smart enough to emerge bc. |
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>> Agreed. I've been on -user for 10+ years and only a very few fetch their |
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>> kernels directly from upstream. The vast majority of users who have |
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>> described how they do it simply emerge one of the source packages just |
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>> like the handbook says to do. |
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>> There's an even split between genkernel users and those who make |
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>> menuconfig (100% unscientific survey taken from my brain and nowhere else) |
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> I've never used gentoo-sources in my life, and always fetched sources by |
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> hand from kernel.org, |
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> but, at the same time, I find it's 100% my own responsibility to cover |
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> any fallout from that, |
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> including manually emerging required dependencies. |
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> - Samuli |
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I agree. Anyone is free to build and install anything without the |
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ebuild, but then they're on their own. |
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Also, who says we're building a linux kernel with our stage3s? I may |
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want on just as a chroot or container, or run it on a non-linux kernel. |
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Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. |
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Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] |
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E-Mail : blueness@g.o |
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