Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 07/26/14 18:01, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 16:29 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
>> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
>>>> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to officially decide
>>>>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I remember
>>>>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches and the
>>>>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?) would want to
>>>>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;))
>>>>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable arch team...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas K. Huettel
>>>>>> Gentoo Linux developer
>>>>>> dilfridge@g.o
>>>>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/
>>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently
>>>>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or
>>>>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not :| (to
>>>>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing all the
>>>>> things).
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev stabilization), that
>>>>> blueness was also the only one replying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem.  No one wants to just make a
>>>> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone is on
>>>> board.  Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both
>>>> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" step
>>>> forward now.  BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work
>>>> yourself.  I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape.  I'll be happy to
>>>> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc.
>>>>
>>> I don't even know about timberdoodle :(
>>>
>>> I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then,
>>> hopefully they will review it :/
>>>
>>> Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to read
>>> the full thread:
>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64.  If there are no
>> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan
>> through.  I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns.  Then I'll
>> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on ppc and
>> ppc64.  I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the
>> ppc and ppc64 lists.  Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ until we
>> have a concise plan and we're all on board.
>>
> OK, please feel free to contact me whenever you want. Usually via mail.
> I will have restricted internet access during most August but should be
> ok again in September :)
>

Okay step 1.  Get a list with all packages stable on ppc.  Please see: 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~blueness/ppc/

We need to decide which of the packages in ppc-stable.txt and 
ppc64-stable.txt we want to *keep* stable.  While people look over that 
list, I'll write a script to drop whatever is in those two files from 
ppc to ~ppc and ppc64 to ~ppc64.  I'll wait a week or so and the poke 
people.

I'm still not sure how to do such a massive commit safely.  Does one 
just run repoman full on the entire tree and then repoman commit -m 
"OMG! Huge commit." ?  I think I may want infra around just in case. 
When I did this for selinux, I did one package at a time, but there were 
no complex dependencies.

Also, I think a news item is prudent.

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Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
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