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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:01:06
Message-Id: 1333094264.1407.5.camel@belkin4
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook by Alexandre Rostovtsev
1 El mar, 27-03-2012 a las 14:34 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió:
2 > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:01 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
3 > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
4 > > > I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a
5 > > > separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo
6 > > > systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of fragmentation, much
7 > > > slower "emerge -pvuDN world" (I benchmarked it when I changed my
8 > > > partitioning scheme to put /usr/portage) separate and a lot of disk
9 > > > space lost (I remember portage tree reached around 3 GB of disk space
10 > > > while I am now running with 300MB)
11 > > >
12 > > > Could handbook suggest people to put /usr/portage on a different
13 > > > partition then? The only doubt I have is what filesystem would be better
14 > > > for it, in my case I am using reiserfs with tail enabled, but maybe you
15 > > > have other different setups.
16 > >
17 > > To be honest, I don't think it is wise to describe it in the Gentoo Handbook
18 > > just yet. I don't mind having it documented elsewhere, but the separate
19 > > partition is not mandatory for getting Gentoo up and running. The
20 > > instructions currently also just give an example partition layout and tell
21 > > users that different layouts are perfectly possible.
22 > >
23 > > We need to take into consideration what is needed (must) for a Gentoo
24 > > installation, what is seriously recommended (should), what is nice to have
25 > > (could), etc. And for me, having a separate /usr/portage is a nice-to-have
26 > > imo.
27 [...]
28 > 2. The handbook should mention that a separate small /usr/portage
29 > partition can noticeably improve performance for users with a rotational
30 > hard drive, and that it's not needed for solid-state drives. It should
31 > also mention that using Gentoo with a separate /usr/portage partition
32 > will require some additional configuration (such as changing DISTDIR and
33 > PKGDIR to avoid running out of space).
34 >
35 > -Alexandre.
36 >
37 >
38 >
39
40 This would be nice :D

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