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From: "Nathan L. Adams" <nadams@××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting Important Updates To Users
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 13:47:23
Message-Id: 436A13AA.1010603@ieee.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting Important Updates To Users by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
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4 Duncan wrote:
5 > Stuart Herbert posted <1130785533.10547.41.camel@××××××××××××××.org>,
6 > excerpted below, on Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:05:33 +0000:
7 >
8 >>The original problem is that GWN, forums, planet.g.o, gentoo-dev - even
9 >>together, we've seen that they just don't reach enough of our user base.
10 >>Aren't we just going to reach the same people by putting more news in
11 >>the same old place? How is that going to reach the people we're not
12 >>reaching today?
13 >
14 >
15 > There is /one/ way to reach /everyone/ doing an upgrade (well, those that
16 > do emerge -a or -p, anyway, and those that don't, well... they apparently
17 > /like/ being left in the dark, and doing perhaps risky upgrades without
18 > knowing what's going on, so let's not disturb their "enjoyment" <g>).
19 >
20 > That ONE way: Push a "null" portage -rX upgrade to both stable and ~
21 > versions, the sole purpose of which is to print the *VITALLY* *IMPORTANT*
22 > *ANNOUNCEMENT* as an einfo both after the "upgrade", and as part of the
23 > "portage will stop merging at this point and recalculate" message one gets
24 > with a -p or -a. (For double-sure effect, make the first emerge action
25 > after the upgrade /only/ print the message, doing nothing else. Further
26 > emerges would then go back to normal behavior.)
27 >
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29 Cramming this info in portage is stupid, because portage is supposed to
30 be NON-interactive. Does anyone really expect users to sit and stare at
31 the output of a compile (openoffice takes HOURS to compile) waiting for
32 an einfo to pass by?
33
34 Perhaps printing out an URI after portage is done would be useful:
35
36 http://errata.g.o/apache-migration.xml
37
38 Publishing the info on a webpage also allows you to view the info from
39 another computer if you seriously b0rk something during an upgrade.
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