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From: "»Q«" <boxcars@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:12:03
Message-Id: 20160210171019.07d56ea1@sepulchrave.remarqs
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changing order of default virtual/udev provider by waltdnes@waltdnes.org
1 On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:27:50 -0500
2 waltdnes@××××××××.org wrote:
3
4 > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:09:58AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote
5 > > On 09 Feb 2016 22:39, Duncan wrote:
6
7 > > > the way we're running udev is strongly
8 > > > discouraged and generally not supported by upstream, with a
9 > > > statement that it /will/ break in the future, it's simply a
10 > > > matter of time.
11 > >
12 > > start a thread then when that actually happens
13 >
14 > The problem with that approach is that all at once the Gentoo forum
15 > will be hit with questions by a whole bunch of people who will have to
16 > migrate to either eudev or systemd on a short deadline.
17
18 That will happen anyway, assuming upstream is right that standalone
19 udev will break someday; changing the default to openrc/eudev or to
20 systemd would prompt a few people to look at change their existing
21 systems, but most would just leave things alone and carry on.
22
23 > As the old saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of
24 > cure. I believe that the best way to handle a crisis is to prevent
25 > it in the first place. That means getting into a lifeboat before
26 > standalone udev sinks.
27
28 IMO, the lifeboats are already in place. Never having looked into it
29 before yesterday, I went to <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eudev> and
30 within a couple of minutes I had switched from udev to eudev, including
31 rebooting. (I was lucky enough -- eudev was just a drop-in replacement
32 for me.)
33
34 All that said, ISTM sticking with standalone udev as default when
35 upstream does not support that seems strange, not that strangeness ever
36 ruled anything out in Gentoo. ;)