Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item

[Brian Harring]

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:03:43AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:

<snip a lot of crap that is ignoring what I've been asking>

Frankly getting fairly annoyed people are immediately taking it to 
the rhel/ubuntu extremes- that is *not* what I asked and is frankly 
a strawman argument.  Occasional pain on upgrades is a given in 
gentoo, although anyone claiming we've not kept an eye on those sharp 
corners is delusional (versioned eapi, etc-update's very existance, 
portage warning on removal of a pkg in the system set, the list goes 
on).  Hell, even the notification mechanism y'all want to use for 
informing is an example of trying to soften those corners were 
possible, rather than precluding their existance.

I asked if we had looked at scripting away some of the upgrade pains.  

It's a pretty simple fucking question requiring either a 5 second 
"no" or 5 minutes of "yes, heres what we looked at, they were deemed 
too painful".  Answering that also is a helluva lot quicker then 
people trading barbs over "we need to release it now" or proper SA; 
while your retort was dead on for what folks should do, it was 
completely unrelated to answering the question I'm *asking*.

If we didn't look into it, that's fine.  Means I've got something to 
poke at over the weekend.

If we did, and it was ruled out, awesome, I have other things on my 
todo list I'll poke at this weekend.

~harring