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Hi. |
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Wernfried Haas wrote: |
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[snip] |
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> Please define access. Does that mean they get to ban people from the |
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> forums and all #gentoo-* channels? Do they get mod/op powers or just |
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> request it from the respective forum moderators / channel operators |
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> (who _have_ to follow their orders)? |
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[snip] |
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> What exactly is Gentoo's official communication infrastructure? The |
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> mailinglists? _All_ IRC channels? So far #gentoo and #gentoo-dev are |
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> the only channels following some official policy, all others are ruled |
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> by whatever project/owner they have (afaik, correct me if |
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> wrong). Would a ban also affect all #gentoo-* channels and the forums? |
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> Posting on planet? What about gentoo developers calling people names |
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> in non-gentoo channels while wearing a gentoo cloak on irc or being |
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> otherwise easily identified as such (e.g. posting flames to debian |
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> mailing lists using @gentoo.org email)? |
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[snip] |
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> Kind of answers my question, but i'm still asking for confirmation |
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> because i have a hard time believing it. Do the proctors get to |
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> overrule every team that moderates some communication channel already? |
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[snip] |
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> Furthermore this raises an important question for me: |
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> So far, the forums moderators (as well as the ops in #gentoo) have |
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> enforced their policies. As long proctors and mods/ops are of the same |
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> opinion about a person, fine - but what about the following |
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> situations: |
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> - A developer misbehaves on the forums according to the forums staff |
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> and gets banned by them. |
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> So far, it has been our policy (not written, and hardly used every 2 |
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> years) to let devrel know about it in case they wanted to do something |
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> else about it. I guess it would make sense to continue that. |
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> What if the proctors disagree with the ban? |
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> |
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> - The proctors think someone is misbehaving on the forums and want him |
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> banned, while the forums staff think it is not ban worthy. What now |
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I agree with all of the previous points raised by amne and am very |
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interested on how do you propose the proctors, gentoo IRC channel ops, |
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forum moderators and userrel work together. As it seems the proposal is |
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for these guidelines to uphold in every Gentoo communication channel and |
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project, they will affect the MLs, the IRC channels, the forums and |
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projects like the userreps. I think that the rules need to take into |
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account specifics of each communication channel - as an example I would |
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recall the OTW forum, which is subject to a different set of guidelines |
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in the forums. |
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As amne asked before, will the proctors have overruling power over |
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moderators for existing channels? If so, is the council suggesting that |
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the proctors / devrel / council should "control" the forums moderation |
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team and the IRC channel ops? As amne also asked, do you propose that |
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teams work together or that proctors become forum moderators/admins and |
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channel ops for all official IRC gentoo channels? |
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