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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage suggestion
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:04:40
Message-Id: 200402131404.38752.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage suggestion by Spider
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4 On Friday 13 February 2004 13:54, Spider wrote:
5 > begin quote
6 > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:44:21 +0000
7 >
8 > James Harlow <james@××××××××××××××.nu> wrote:
9 > > > What do you think?
10 > >
11 > > I suggest verifying that you can manually compile licq without kde,
12 > > and then posting a bug on bugzilla. Repeat as required until all the
13 > > packages you use are useflag-enabled.
14 >
15 > I keep seing threads like this cropping up at a regular basis, both
16 > here and on bugzilla. However, the small issue most people who file
17 > those bugs overlook is reliability.
18 >
19 > Here's the point, we can easly remove the dependency on esd, and if
20 > the code works, okay. However, then you have an untracked dependency
21 > when esd -is- installed but set as USE="-esd" , as it will be needed,
22 > but not listed as such.
23 >
24 > -that- is unreliable behaviour, and in many cases we chose to rather
25 > make it a hard dependency and force it down peoples throats, than to
26 > expend time and work on issues where things -work- but we perhaps not
27 > locally optimal.
28 >
29 > So, Feel free to file any bugs you want about this, tcp-wrappers and
30 > other such "bloated" issues. However: If you do not wrap for the
31 > reverse case, your changes will be ignored.
32
33 I have sent a message to portage-dev to this respect suggesting dynamic
34 runtime deps. Basically saying, if this package is available at
35 compiletime it will be needed at runtime. This would probably be an
36 option for portageng, but it would allow these things to be tracked.
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38 Paul
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