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Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> That's just it. Portage needs to deliver major visible improvements at |
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> the user level for Gentoo to get anywhere. Managing a Gentoo system is |
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> much harder now than it was a few years ago, but the tools are largely |
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> the same. |
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> |
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What on earth is going to be a "major visible improvement" to a command |
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line based package manager that any average Gentoo user is going to |
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realise? The average user probably only uses a few commands: emerge |
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-u/p/a/v/--sync/package/world/system and then use |
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package.keywords/mask/unmask so there are really no fundamental |
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differences that the average user will notice |
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And that really means that portage is no easier/harder than it was 3 |
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years ago when USE="~x86" emerge foo was consigned to the dustbin |
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> |
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>>> * The wrong idea of what the user base is, and what the target user |
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>>> base is. Gentoo's direction is too heavily influenced by a small |
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>>> number of extremely noisy ricer forum users, many of whom don't |
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>>> even run Gentoo. Unfortunately, this self-perpetuating clique |
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>>> wields huge amounts of influence. |
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>>> |
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>> I was certain that Gentoo's direction was influenced by the people |
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>> working on Gentoo; not ricers. Do you have any examples of when the |
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>> ricers changed the direction of things in Gentoo. |
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>> |
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> |
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> Sunrise is the canonical example. Also consider the way the forums are |
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> being run (like it or not, the forums are taken by many to be |
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> representative of Gentoo's user base)... |
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It seems to most that the forums is the only part of Gentoo that is - |
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and always has been - running smoothly |
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