Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

[Alistair Bush]

Ben de Groot wrote:
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> For quite some time (over a year, actually) we've been discussing the
>> mysterious and often misunderstood GLEP55.
>> [http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0055.html]
>>
>> The proposed solution to a problem that is never refined,
>
> This, in my opinion, is the crux of the matter. Most of us apparently
> are not sufficiently convinced that there actually is a problem. Until
> the problem is explained with clarity, the rest of the proposal is useless.
>
>> "Obviously you don't understand the issue, because if you did you'd support
>> it!"
>
> I concur that speaking for myself, I don't understand the issue. And it
> looks like many others don't either. So if anyone wants to promote this
> GLEP, their job is clear: make people understand what the issue is here,
> and convince them it is actually an issue. (Examples, scenarios usually
> work well, indeed a lot better than calling people names.)

Is it really necessary to convince the entire community for every GLEP?
 I thought that the reason we have the council is so they can make
decisions. You know specialization of decision making.  If the council
is going to expect anyone else, besides themselves, to understand an
issue then why have the council.

>
>> And maybe we can now spend the same amount of
>> council-time (it has been eating time for over a year!) to get important
>> things done ...
>
> I want to call on the Council to reject this GLEP in its current form,
> as the problem has been insufficiently clarified. We should not waste
> more time on it.

I would like the Council to either accept, reject or send the GLEP back
to be clarified if _THEY_ believe it has been insufficiently clarified
to enable _THEM_ to understand the GLEP.

>
> Cheers,