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On 07/30/14 17:18, Joseph Jezak wrote: |
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> On 07/30/2014 06:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: |
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>> On 07/29/14 22:16, Jack Morgan wrote: |
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>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: |
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>>>> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote: |
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>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: |
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>>>>>> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: |
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>>>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: |
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>>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos: |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to |
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>>>>>>>>> officially decide |
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>>>>>>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I |
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>>>>>>>>> remember |
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>>>>>>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches |
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>>>>>>>>> and the |
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>>>>>>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others) |
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>>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?) |
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>>>>>>>>> would want to |
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>>>>>>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;)) |
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>>>>>>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council. |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable |
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>>>>>>>> arch team...) |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>> -- |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>> Andreas K. Huettel |
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>>>>>>>> Gentoo Linux developer |
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>>>>>>>> dilfridge@g.o |
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>>>>>>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/ |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently |
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>>>>>>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or |
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>>>>>>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not |
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>>>>>>> :| (to |
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>>>>>>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing |
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>>>>>>> all the |
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>>>>>>> things). |
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>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev |
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>>>>>>> stabilization), that |
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>>>>>>> blueness was also the only one replying. |
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>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem. No one wants to just |
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>>>>>> make a |
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>>>>>> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone |
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>>>>>> is on |
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>>>>>> board. Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both |
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>>>>>> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" |
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>>>>>> step |
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>>>>>> forward now. BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work |
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>>>>>> yourself. I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape. I'll be happy to |
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>>>>>> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc. |
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>>>>>> |
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>>>>> I don't even know about timberdoodle :( |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then, |
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>>>>> hopefully they will review it :/ |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to |
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>>>>> read |
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>>>>> the full thread: |
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>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151 |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> |
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>>>> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64. If there are no |
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>>>> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan |
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>>>> through. I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns. Then I'll |
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>>>> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on |
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>>>> ppc and |
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>>>> ppc64. I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the |
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>>>> ppc and ppc64 lists. Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ |
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>>>> until we |
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>>>> have a concise plan and we're all on board. |
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>>> I don't think you can/should just take over the leadership of an |
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>>> arch. |
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>>> Why not have meeting/discussion for team members. Especially since you |
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>>> are proposing such a big change. |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>>> Thanks, |
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>>> |
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>> Okay, any members of the ppc team please speak up. I'll wait a week. |
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>> |
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> I'm still trying to escape from grad school and getting married this |
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> fall, so my contributions have been limited at best, which is why I've |
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> been shying away from throwing in my two cents. That said, while I'd |
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> rather not just remove stable keywords until there's a reason, I have |
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> no problem with dropping keywords for stuff that is holding up |
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> stabilization bugs if that's what it takes for things to move forward. |
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> If you'd like to have a meeting about it, that's fine too. |
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> -Joe |
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Sure, let's meet. I'd like to have jmorgan come too and any other |
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ppc/ppc64 members. How does Monday Aug 4 at 20:00 UTC sound to people. |
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If not please counter propose a time. |
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Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. |
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Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] |
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E-Mail : blueness@g.o |
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