Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status

[Joseph Jezak]

On 07/30/2014 06:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 07/29/14 22:16, Jack Morgan wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
>>> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
>>>>> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to officially
>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I
>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches
>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?)
>>>>>>>> would want to
>>>>>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;))
>>>>>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable
>>>>>>> arch team...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andreas K. Huettel
>>>>>>> Gentoo Linux developer
>>>>>>> dilfridge@g.o
>>>>>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently
>>>>>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or
>>>>>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not
>>>>>> :| (to
>>>>>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing
>>>>>> all the
>>>>>> things).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev
>>>>>> stabilization), that
>>>>>> blueness was also the only one replying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem.  No one wants to just
>>>>> make a
>>>>> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone is on
>>>>> board.  Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both
>>>>> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" step
>>>>> forward now.  BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work
>>>>> yourself.  I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape.  I'll be happy to
>>>>> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't even know about timberdoodle :(
>>>>
>>>> I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then,
>>>> hopefully they will review it :/
>>>>
>>>> Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to
>>>> read
>>>> the full thread:
>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64.  If there are no
>>> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan
>>> through.  I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns. Then I'll
>>> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on ppc
>>> and
>>> ppc64.  I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the
>>> ppc and ppc64 lists.  Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ until we
>>> have a concise plan and we're all on board.
>>   I don't think you can/should just take over the leadership of an arch.
>> Why not have meeting/discussion for team members. Especially since you
>> are proposing such a big change.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
> Okay, any members of the ppc team please speak up.   I'll wait a week.
>
I'm still trying to escape from grad school and getting married this 
fall, so my contributions have been limited at best, which is why I've 
been shying away from throwing in my two cents. That said, while I'd 
rather not just remove stable keywords until there's a reason, I have no 
problem with dropping keywords for stuff that is holding up 
stabilization bugs if that's what it takes for things to move forward. 
If you'd like to have a meeting about it, that's fine too.

-Joe