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On Thursday 24 August 2006 02:17, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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> When I think about where Gentoo was when we turned into a democracy |
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> years ago, and where Gentoo is now, I don't see much of a difference on |
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> the large scale. We lack any global vision for where Gentoo is going, we |
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> can't agree on who our audience is, and everyone's just working on |
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> pretty much whatever they feel like. |
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Some like it that way others don't I think that is normal when you have |
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elections. If more developers will work for a global vision we will have one. |
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> The vocal minority often gets its way, despite 99% of the other |
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> developers being happy with any given situation. |
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Yeah, that is a problem. Simple rules and stronger enforcement of those rules |
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would be great. |
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> All in all, the vocal minority has done a splendid job of becoming more |
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> influential, crippling Gentoo's ability to do anything at all about its |
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> members, their flames, their outstanding work at ruining people's fun |
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> and enjoyment of Gentoo, and their waste of everyone else's time. |
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Then vote for someone else. |
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> Being able to work together long term is this project's greatest asset, |
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> one far more important than any set of changes to the code, and turning |
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> arguments about code into issues that affect our long-term ability to |
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> work harmoniously together is just not worth the trade-off by any |
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> conceivable stretch of the imagination. ... |
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I agree. If we can't come up with many global technical objectives this could |
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be a good candidate . |
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> I'm not the only one to suggest that a democracy isn't the most |
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> productive way to run Gentoo. When people wanted to change in how Gentoo |
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> was run, democracy was the only option considered, rather than simply |
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> changing the leaders. There's an ongoing assumption that if problems |
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> exist, it must be somewhere in the structure rather than in the people. |
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Democracy is not just democracy it can be run in many ways. |
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> If I could go back in time a couple of years and prevent this democracy |
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> from ever happening, I would. If I could fix these problems myself, I |
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> would. But it requires buy-in from the entire Gentoo community if we're |
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> to do anything about it. |
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I was only a dev for a few months with drobbins so I don't really have any |
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personal experience from that part of the Gentoo history but I definately |
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would not like to abandon the Foundation and work under some arbitrary chief. |
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Going backwards is not the solution. |
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Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen (Jaervosz) |
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Gentoo Linux Security Team |
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