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Mikael Hallendal wrote: |
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> sön 2001-10-14 klockan 23.34 skrev Karl Trygve Kalleberg: |
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>>On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:37:23 -0400 |
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>>Blue Lizard <webmaster@×××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>bugzilla _could_ handle this, but while it is technically ready enough |
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>>>our development team is in no way prepared to handle the influx of new |
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>>>users that would find it a pain in the neck to use. |
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>>Then we find something that's easier to use. We really want this to |
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>>further Gentoo development, not hamper it. I do not think our current |
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>>system with sporadic mails to the gentoo-dev (and sometimes |
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>>gentoo-ebuild!) list is good enough. |
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> I don't think that anyone thinks that gnome-dev a good solution for |
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> bugreporting. (After all it should be a developer-list for |
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> devel-discussions). |
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> I think that we should start using a bug-tracking system and that we |
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> should start doing so soon. As I've said before, Bugzilla is really |
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> powerful but can also be a large step for new users. However, this is |
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> with the default-interface, we could do our own interface that's easier |
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> to use. |
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> Someone also mentioned roundup (http://roundup.sourceforge.net/). I |
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> tried to get it running on my Gentoo-machine but it didn't want to play. |
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> Someone (and me) should give it another try. |
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> IMHO, we can choose either as long as it works. I also think that we |
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> should use this system for our "todo"'s, in other words, start using the |
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> bug-tracking system for what we currently uses Dev-wiki. |
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> I'm not sure about Roundup but bugzilla can also be used for handling |
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> ebuilds (instead of gentoo-ebuild-list). |
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> Regards, |
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> Mikael Hallendal |
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Well, if you are making a new interface to bugzilla (or whatever backend |
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is chosen), which seems preferable, then it is not a big deal to have |
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separate interfaces (like different forms on a website) for a BR, UC, or |
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FER. Bug report, usability correction, and feature enhancement request |
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respectively. That way if someone not very intigrated with development |
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or clueless about code thinks 'it would be cool if you could...' he need |
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say little more. And it would be easier for triage, version control, |
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that kind of thing. That is, easier from the POV of the person writing |
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the report/request and easier for the developer(s) it concerns. So yes, |
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I agree that writing a gentoo interface is a good idea. Roundup is |
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pretty, but I fear that it might not suit our purposes very well. |
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Still, learn from it. While implementing our own interfaces (kinda like |
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real time triage), take from it that ease of gathering together all your |
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active 'stuff' together. Page for users to look at bugs they've filed |
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and their status, activity, etc. (think MyPage on ubid). Page for |
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developers to see bugs assigned to them, if they are qa contact, if a |
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bug has patch up for review and it falls in their 'sector' |
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(component/area), new bugs that would be of interest (falls in area of |
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specialty, contact, someone cc'ed them, etc.). Note that unlike |
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mozilla's implementation, it is more contained in one system unit |
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thingy. Like instead of being based on emails and cc's and chechking |
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boxes or filling in...this is all totally together in my head but to put |
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into words or code seems impossible. Think like the way it sorta |
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(great, now the idea is evolving too far beyond the example) ... ya |
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know. Like the way MandrakeExpert sorta kinda doesn't really work. |
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Replace the expert select check boxes with a pulldown menu that updates |
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with the selection of component and other aspect triaging attributes |
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that minimize the required user knowledge background. This is so |
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incoherent I'm just gonna stop. Look at this, not a single line break. |
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It's how I think, must be why I'm always so confused ;P |
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5:34 AM? When did that happen? It's 2 isnt it? huh? |
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-Blue (yeah, I might be the reason this ml turns moderated :p) |