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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Local workarounds with no reported bugs
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:04:48
Message-Id: 92e20cd7-830d-8a20-a5de-5ed0e1903fc7@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Local workarounds with no reported bugs by "Michał Górny"
1 On 17/10/16 03:23 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > Hello, everyone.
3 >
4 > I'd like to point out a major problem in Gentoo: there's a fair number
5 > of developers who add various local workarounds to problems they meet
6 > and don't bother to report a bug. Worst than that, this applies not
7 > only for upstream problems but also to Gentoo eclass/ebuild-related
8 > issues.
9 >
10 >
11 > Example: udev people had problems with MULTILIB_WRAPPED_HEADERS
12 > in the past. Instead of contacting me (which would result in helpful
13 > explanation how to do things properly), they abused bash to disable
14 > the check function implicitly in the ebuilds.
15 >
16 > Nobody bothered to inform me of the issue there. Instead, I had to
17 > notice it looking at the udev ebuilds accidentally. Furthermore, in
18 > most of the ebuilds the workaround was no longer necessary but nobody
19 > bothered to check that.
20 >
21 >
22 > Example 2: Coacher had problem with git-r3 not trying fallback URIs
23 > when earlier URI was https and https wasn't supported in git. So he
24 > reordered URIs to have https last. With tiny explanation in some random
25 > commit message.
26 >
27 > So we have a problem that affects around a half of git-r3 packages
28 > (using quick grep, results inaccurate), however minor it is. Worse, it
29 > affects the policy of preferring https and causes some people to reject
30 > the policy silently. And nobody gives a damn to report it!
31 >
32 >
33 > Therefore, I'd like to request establishing an official policy against
34 > workarounds with no associated bug reports.
35 >
36 > Your thoughts?
37 >
38
39 To be clear, are you referring here to workarounds only regarding
40 gentoo related stuffs (use of eclasses, package manager (ie portage)
41 functionality, etc) or are you also referring to the various
42 workarounds we as maintainers need to do to say, the use of build
43 tools (cmake, etc) or upstream's codebase/build system itself, to
44 successfully package it as well?

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