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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o>
To: gentoo development <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:12:37
Message-Id: CAEdQ38Gu85KqhsutQrLunHsABeVd6m30oa6RuxVEmigSzERkJg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages by Aaron Bauman
1 On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:24 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:29:46PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
4 > > On 2020-06-20 12:07, Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > >> Al least, python2 is not on your list.
6 > > >>
7 > > >> Be first into the future by masking this stuff and
8 > > >> Last out of the past by leaving up to users to decide.
9 > > >> It could stay in the tree, masked, as long as python2.
10 > > >>
11 > > >
12 > > > Do you really think it'd be better to last rite a 1000 packages
13 > > > simultaneously?
14 > >
15 > > What's the purpose of this at all?
16 > >
17 > > dev-lang/python:2.7 won't go away that soon.
18 > >
19 > > Removing perfectly working and up-to-date software which is in
20 > > maintenance-only mode like net-mail/offlineimap is just not user-friendly.
21 > >
22 > > It doesn't even has deps on other Python packages blocking your cleanup
23 > > delusion.
24 > >
25 >
26 > Thomas, unfortunately, I am shocked at your choice of words here. I
27 > think it is reasonable that any developer would understand a lack
28 > of forward momentum in removing Py2 only packages only drives
29 > stagnation.
30 >
31 > If you have a more effective method to doing so, I am open to
32 > suggestions.
33
34 Between the disagreements about whether a package should be masked,
35 the length of time the last rites period should be, and the steps
36 required to disband a project, I think there's been enough pushback
37 that it's necessary to change how you approach these projects.
38
39 Please start by using the standard 30-day last rites period. It's a
40 simple thing and whether the packages are in tree for an additional 16
41 days should not affect any of your work.
42
43 > re: net-mail/offlineimap... there are alternatives.
44
45 Removing python2_7 support from the tree is a valuable goal, but
46 offlineimap is widely used and blocks no further work. It can easily
47 remain in the tree after all other python2_7 support is gone.
48
49 This is not a hill worth dying on.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>