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On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Andreas K. Huettel |
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> <dilfridge@g.o> wrote: |
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>> So, a thread like "Should we enable useflag Z by default" would then include |
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>> "Please discuss here, vote on ..." with a link to the count page (updated via |
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>> cron every 1h). On login to ..., a message similar to the "open elections |
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>> message" could be displayed. |
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>> Obviously the implementation does not exist, but this is conceptually simple |
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>> enough so it could be implemented within reasonable time. |
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>> Opinions? |
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>> (Yes / No / More discussion needed :D ) |
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> What's the point? I don't think democracy is the best way to handle |
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> these sorts of things. |
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> Plus, it leaves out users. Why does that matter? Think about it: |
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> If what you want is expert opinion then the last thing you want is any |
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> kind of poll of anybody. Put it on the lists, follow the discussion, |
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> chat with experts that emerge on irc/email/etc, and make the best |
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> decision. Is that hard? Sure. But, if your goal is to discover |
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> issues and learn then you won't get that in an easier way. . |
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The primary complaint was the fact that there is too much email. While |
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I don't disagree with your idea overall; it doesn't solve the problem |
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of essentially too many messages to read, which is a disincentive to |
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even try. This ends up where developers don't read -dev (or skim -dev, |
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or are not even subscribed to -dev.) |
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> If you just want to get a sense for what people find useful in a case |
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> where popularity really is relevant (like the cups example) then you |
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> really want to poll the entire userbase. A forum poll or something |
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> like that is more useful for that. This isn't used for judging |
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> technical rightness, but purely for assessing popularity. |
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> If an issue is highly contentious then rather than counting votes it |
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> makes more sense to ask the council. |
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> Other options include creating choices (that requires a maintenance |
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> commitment though), and this is often facilitated by starting a |
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> project. Then you can have somewhat more organized meetings/etc |
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> around a topic of interest. |
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> Rich |
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