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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:40:03
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kmVD=Ce_m8_mLfr35xHSXsP+f4DcLstsgCr+sFHS35zw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature by "Andreas K. Huettel"
1 On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
2 <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
3 > So, a thread like "Should we enable useflag Z by default" would then include
4 > "Please discuss here, vote on ..." with a link to the count page (updated via
5 > cron every 1h). On login to ..., a message similar to the "open elections
6 > message" could be displayed.
7 >
8 > Obviously the implementation does not exist, but this is conceptually simple
9 > enough so it could be implemented within reasonable time.
10 >
11 > Opinions?
12 > (Yes / No / More discussion needed :D )
13
14 What's the point? I don't think democracy is the best way to handle
15 these sorts of things.
16
17 Plus, it leaves out users. Why does that matter? Think about it:
18
19 If what you want is expert opinion then the last thing you want is any
20 kind of poll of anybody. Put it on the lists, follow the discussion,
21 chat with experts that emerge on irc/email/etc, and make the best
22 decision. Is that hard? Sure. But, if your goal is to discover
23 issues and learn then you won't get that in an easier way. .
24
25 If you just want to get a sense for what people find useful in a case
26 where popularity really is relevant (like the cups example) then you
27 really want to poll the entire userbase. A forum poll or something
28 like that is more useful for that. This isn't used for judging
29 technical rightness, but purely for assessing popularity.
30
31 If an issue is highly contentious then rather than counting votes it
32 makes more sense to ask the council.
33
34 Other options include creating choices (that requires a maintenance
35 commitment though), and this is often facilitated by starting a
36 project. Then you can have somewhat more organized meetings/etc
37 around a topic of interest.
38
39 Rich

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