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On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 08:13:53PM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: |
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> My thought is this: everyone should try and evaluate their own behaviour |
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> on this list, and the method in which they treat others. If each of us |
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> actually thought about the effects of our attitudes, this discussion |
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> might well be moot. |
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In the June meeting, I repeated my opinion that _every_ member of the |
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list (but esp. the developers) should strive to hold themselves to |
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FreeNode's Catalyst (http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml) ideal. |
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This was related to the original goals of the CoC in the first place. |
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The CoC lost sight of the aim to get Gentoo to function better. |
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Whatever the council has tried, it seems that general history is being |
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repeated in microcosm with Gentoo: You cannot enforce morality nor |
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ethics. |
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At the same time, you cannot remove any that disrupt the community. |
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This includes both |
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- Forcibly: There are plenty that believe dropping Mr McCreesh and Mr |
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Long would improve the perceived health of the list. The opponents of |
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such call this censorship. |
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- and 'not feeding the trolls' because as long as they have an interest |
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in Gentoo itself, they will remain (for the same reason that |
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developers stay). |
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Thus the council (both the present one, as well as the incoming council) |
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stand between a rock and a very hard place. They stand charged with |
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improving the perception of Gentoo, improving communication on the lists |
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AND not alienating any part of the community. |
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Gentoo's principles are that of an open community. Many of us developers |
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joined (esp. the older ones) because we had an itch of our own to |
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scratch, and as that itch moved around within Gentoo, so did we. |
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I was invited to join Gentoo for working on ufed and the QA level of |
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use.desc. After those, I picked up maintaining MySQL and PHP, because |
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the previous maintainers (woodchip and rphillips respectively) had gone. |
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From thence, I created the first PHP team (with coredumb and stuart), |
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and started drifted around. I've been drifting since, as my own needs |
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and itches take me to various realms of Gentoo. The only major areas |
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that I haven't made some impact in have been games, GNOME, KDE, and GUI |
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apps (reflecting that I spend most of my time on a terminal). |
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It used to be a rite of passage that a new developer would break |
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something because they didn't realize one of the side-effects of their |
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actions (seemant has experience there, which lead to revdep-rebuild), |
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and then helped to fix it up, better than it was before. One step |
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backwards, two steps forward. |
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Compare it to now, and I read things like bug #184597, and I am ashamed |
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to see that 3 teams rebuffed a potential new developer. That degree of |
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elitism just hurts. I understand Gentoo has always been a meritocracy, |
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but it is an open one, that lets folk get started regardless. |
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How do we get Gentoo back to where it was? That I cannot answer. |
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But I will state, that while I am not running for a council position |
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next year, I would like to remain with Gentoo a long time, even if it's |
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just an lone developer, with no work in Infrastructure or any other |
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leadership group (I'm in Infrastructure because my skills are helpful to |
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them). |
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I won't leave just because I disagree with some management decision that |
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Council makes. I might be stubborn and disenchanted for some time |
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(witness the many murmurs of discontent), but it's against my own best |
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interests to leave Gentoo. As it was put before, if you leave, the Fungi |
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will win. |
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-- |
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Robin Hugh Johnson |
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Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member |
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E-Mail : robbat2@g.o |
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