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On 02/10/2016 20:15, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: |
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> On 10/02/16 12:09 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: |
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>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:26:12 -0600 William Hubbs |
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>> <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> Often the decision to procrastinate is a decision that is |
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>>>> rewarded. That should be considered carefully. |
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>>> + 10000. |
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>>> I also saw another issue that made me shudder. If we change |
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>>> the default to eudev, people who are running separate /usr are |
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>>> going to think they can kill their initramfs's, because people |
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>>> in gentoo conflated the separate /usr and initramfs issue with |
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>>> udev [1]. |
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>>> William |
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>>> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573760#C4 |
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> Yeah I second this -- it was decided officially by council (what, 2 |
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> years ago now?) that separate-/usr-without-initramfs doesn't need to |
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> be officially supported anymore, and so if things break that it is |
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> up to end-users to ensure they pick up the pieces. |
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> Although it is likely that eudev *will* keep installation onto / and |
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> out of /usr to help with this not-officially-supported situation in |
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> Gentoo, that doesn't mean the other projects have to stay out of |
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> /usr, and "it worked before the upgrade but doesn't now" certainly |
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> doesn't mean it's a valid bug. If a user or sysadmin drops their |
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> initramfs when they have a separate-/usr system, any resulting |
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> breakage is on them. |
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FWIW, I have separate /usr on several systems, and haven't needed an initramfs |
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thus far. I thought we had some trick active in busybox or even eudev that |
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handles separate /usr for *simple* filesystem configurations (i.e., just basic |
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partitions, no LVM, evms, encryption, etc). |
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So I don't there would be immediate breakage in this scenario. It's going to |
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depend on how a given system was configured. Simple setups appear to |
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JustWork(), AFAICT. |
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Joshua Kinard |
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Gentoo/MIPS |
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kumba@g.o |
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6144R/F5C6C943 2015-04-27 |
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"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our |
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lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." |
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