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From: Egg Plant <egg.plant@××××××××××.com>
To: "gentoo-dev@l.g.o" <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:09:34
Message-Id: 1372172964.1496.YahooMailNeo@web120804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts by Michael Palimaka
1 ----- Original Message -----
2 > From: Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>
3 >
4 > On 25/06/2013 22:42, Egg Plant wrote:
5 >> I don't know whether a new gentoo user like me have any say here, I
6 > would like to point out some problems about this proposal !
7 >>
8 >> 2. Gentoo is not backed by any public invested company or private company,
9 > no corporation. So there is nobody to show your monthly/quarterly progress,
10 > nothing to hide intelligently. That is why I'm here.
11 >>
12 >> 4. More communication channels will just create fragmentation &
13 > distraction. Installing & maintaing Gentoo is already a big work, now if I
14 > have to check regularly the huge Mailing lists, IRC, Bugzilla, git and now you
15 > are saying about Google Hangout, may be later someone will say about Twitter,
16 > Facebook, .... I am just finished. It will just waste our time. FYI, I am not a
17 > Computer Science student/engineer/researcher.
18 >>
19 >>
20 >>   [N.B.: I am neither considering Gentoo because some Hero/Idol said so or
21 > helping me out, nor just Stumbleupon it, I am here after trying other distros
22 > and lots of associated frustration. ...]
23 >>
24 >> 7. It can be ok if you or somebody else do it as an unofficial effort,
25 > don't request the teams to make it another official channel.
26 >>
27 >>
28 >
29 > These are all good reasons to not use Hangouts. Fortunately, there was
30 > nothing in the proposal to suggest that it will be required for anyone,
31 > or that it will replace any existing source of information. Therefore
32 > anyone who chooses not to make use of Hangouts will not otherwise be
33 > affected by them.
34 >
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37 According to Pavlos Ratis proposal, it will be another channel of communication. I am not protesting to setup an unofficial channel there.
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39 I am fearing that it will gradually become an avenue for talent show, similar to other binary distros. That is why I am against to make it official channel.
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42 Video is more attractive than Text or still photo.
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44 Several developers, who can afford the resources, will gradually shift their communication to that channel. It's somewhat cyclic dependency or chain reaction. It will just increase our workload (of gentoo development awareness). More fragmentation & distraction as well as other technical problems mentioned by others & me.
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46 I don't want any unnecessary attention from some Computer Science students (unable to get a job at Microsoft or Apple!   sorry, I don't like to be that hard) to show their talent and gift me with another unstable, unreliable, expectation only, useless distro.
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48 Change is good, only if it improves our life. For colourfull life there are other things one can play with.
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50 The resourcefull developers/users can meet each other at Gentoo Miniconf and similar other gatherings in real world. That will make us more human.
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52 [P.S.: request you to read my first mail once again, I am not totally against this type of activity. Everything has it's place & time.]
53  
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55 I'm yet a learner, warn me if I'm doing any wrong... [|:-)

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>