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On Friday 02 May 2003 19:08, Jon Kent wrote: |
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> hmmm, interesting idea, but I have a lot of issues |
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> with this type of approach, namely: |
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> init scripts really need to be easy to maintain with |
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> external requirements kept to a minimum |
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Also the sample scripts are not quite normal XML, as with normal xml all |
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newlines get interpreted (Yes, I know you can use CDATA instead of PCDATA to |
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keep newlines) as normal whitespace. Also, the main advantage of xml is ease |
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of parsing and generation by DIFFERENT programs of complicated formats. Init |
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scripts are not complicated formats and need only be run/parsed by one |
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program that is the shell that it is a script for. |
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> script, generally, are the easiest, more readable |
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> approach to init scripts. You don't modify init |
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> scripts every day so remembering how you did things is |
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> a pain if its not script based |
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Quite my point |
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> I really do not want to learn yet another |
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> language/approach just to get daemons etc up and |
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> running on boot up |
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> I really do not see boot up speed as a problem, on |
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> servers and workstations you do not spend you life |
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> rebooting the things. I've had servers running for |
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> years without a reboot. |
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Init scripts could be faster, but the time lost is not spend waiting for init |
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scripts to be parsed. It is spend waiting for programs to actually start. For |
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that reason paralel init scripts can be useful, but a compiled init process |
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can add little in this. |
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> I must be honest and say that the Gentoo init system |
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> is not easiest in the world, I prefer the old |
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> rcX.d/Sxx[name] approach myself as its simple, but I'd |
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> still prefer the current approach over the proposed |
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> approach. |
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I find the Gentoo init system quite useful myself, but indeed it is a bit more |
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complicated than the S??[name] system. The tricks that redhat uses, to be |
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able to automate configuration though are a lot less clean than gentoo's. |
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Paul |
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Paul de Vrieze |
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