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From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 15:40:32
Message-Id: 518A71AA.8070101@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users by Ben de Groot
1 Ben de Groot schrieb:
2 > On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani <lxnay@g.o> wrote:
3 >> It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
4 >> more accessible, while there are problems with submitting bugs about
5 >> new systemd units of the sort that maintainers just_dont_answer(tm).
6 >> In this case, I am just giving 3 weeks grace period for maintainers to
7 >> answer and then I usually go ahead adding units (I'm in systemd@ after
8 >> all).
9 > In my opinion you should not be asking maintainers to add systemd
10 > units to their packages. They most likely do not have systems on which
11 > they can test these, and very few users would need them anyway. I
12 > would think it is better to add them to a separate systemd-units
13 > package.
14
15 Note that a similar thing is already done with the selinux policy packages.
16
17 Mostly the complaints against adding systemd units are that it would
18 unnecessarily clutter non-systemd installs. Users who complain are told
19 to set INSTALL_MASK but that is somewhat unwieldy.
20
21 A separate package for the unit file would solve this problem nicely.
22 Another option would be to add a "dounit" command to a future EAPI (like
23 doinitd today) and make portage install them unless FEATURES="nounit"
24 (like nodoc/noinfo/noman today).
25
26
27 Best regards,
28 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

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