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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:21:29
Message-Id: 519CE284.9000203@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users by Alan McKinnon
1 On 05/21/2013 09:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 21/05/2013 05:03, Daniel Campbell wrote:
3 >> That's missing the point. If you don't run systemd, having unit files is
4 >> pointless. Thankfully there's INSTALL_MASK and whatnot, but that seems
5 >> like a hack instead of something more robust. Why include systemd unit
6 >> files (by default, with no systemd USE flag, thanks to the council...)
7 >> on a system that's not using it? 154 files isn't negligible unless
8 >> you're flippant with your system and don't care about bloat. Unused
9 >> software sitting around *is* a waste of disk-space.
10 >>
11 >> Some people (like myself) came to Gentoo to avoid putting systemd on
12 >> their systems and to make use of the great choice that Gentoo allows.
13 >> This push to make systemd a "first level citizen" or whatever reeks of
14 >> marketing. If there is desire among users for unit files, they can
15 >> contact upstream or maintain their own set of unit files. It's not like
16 >> they're hard to write.
17 >>
18 >
19 > <amused long-term user chipping in>
20 >
21 > This is such a weak argument it's quite laughable.
22 >
23 > I don't like gnu info files. Neither me nor anyone I know can figure out
24 > how to drive info. So, let's rip all the info files out of every
25 > package; leaving the 3 users who do know info free to grab their copies
26 > from upstream. I mean it's not like it's hard or anything, and info
27 > files are easy to write.
28
29 check the FEATURES variable and be surprise =) (from man make.conf)
30
31 nodoc Do not install doc files (/usr/share/doc).
32
33 noinfo Do not install info pages.
34
35 noman Do not install manpages.
36
37 Adding a nounits norunscript and such might work and had been proposed.
38
39 lu

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