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From: Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:52:53
Message-Id: 20130207055244.9167.qmail@stuge.se
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild by "Tomáš Chvátal"
1 Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
2 > we as gentoo will provide both while preffered default will be what
3 > major distros use.
4
5 What kind of careless mainstream attitude is that? Really?
6
7 I mean: You are saying that given two options, Gentoo will do
8 whatever "major distros" are doing.
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10 (Never mind that Gentoo *is* a major distro, and whatever Gentoo does
11 generates collective bias just like whatever any other distro does.)
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13
14 How about making an informed decision instead?
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16 Oops, I forgot - that would mean actually having to *get informed* first.
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18 "We as gentoo" must certainly avoid getting informed at all cost!!!!111oneone
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20 Are you *really* quite serious? Please explain yourself.
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23 > If you disagree with that and you don't want your lead to make that decision
24
25 Hm? Where can I learn more about the "lead" ? So it is a single
26 person's decision, and not "we as gentoo" that decides? I'd like to
27 understand how this decision making process actually works. Does
28 anyone know?
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30
31 > which you and I both don't want.
32
33 Guess what - I have been on the receiving end of the arguably
34 insanely lame mainstream attitude that you support, and honestly
35
36 it fucking broke my heart
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38 that people working on Linux distributions (it wasn't just Gentoo,
39 it was *every* distro) would be so genuinely uninterested in what
40 happens upstream, especially at a time where a downstream decision
41 may carry a bit of extra weight.
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43 I do not want that.
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45 (Around the time this happened to me I wrote roughly the same in a
46 private email to developers of another distribution which shall
47 remain unnamed. I found that email in a pastebin a few days later.)
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49
50 It is long since clear to me that I have much too high expectations
51 on people.
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53 But are you *REALLY* not able to do *any* better than "default will
54 be what major distros use" ?
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56 Seriously?
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58
59 //Peter

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