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On Thursday 07 of February 2013 06:52:44 Peter Stuge wrote: |
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> Tomáš Chvátal wrote: |
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> > we as gentoo will provide both while preffered default will be what |
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> > major distros use. |
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> What kind of careless mainstream attitude is that? Really? |
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Quite the opposite, decision to use implementation A over B was taken with |
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utmost care for user in mind. |
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> I mean: You are saying that given two options, Gentoo will do |
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> whatever "major distros" are doing. |
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> (Never mind that Gentoo *is* a major distro, and whatever Gentoo does |
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> generates collective bias just like whatever any other distro does.) |
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We are not, let's not go too far, please. |
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> Oops, I forgot - that would mean actually having to *get informed* first. |
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> "We as gentoo" must certainly avoid getting informed at all |
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> cost!!!!111oneone |
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> Are you *really* quite serious? Please explain yourself. |
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> > If you disagree with that and you don't want your lead to make that |
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> > decision |
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> Hm? Where can I learn more about the "lead" ? So it is a single |
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> person's decision, and not "we as gentoo" that decides? I'd like to |
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> understand how this decision making process actually works. Does |
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> anyone know? |
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It depends - in distro-wide, package-tree-wide matters we have Gentoo Council. |
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In local matters like this - who does the job decides. Tomáš does the job - he |
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decides. |
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> > which you and I both don't want. |
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> Guess what - I have been on the receiving end of the arguably |
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> insanely lame mainstream attitude that you support, and honestly |
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> it fucking broke my heart |
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> that people working on Linux distributions (it wasn't just Gentoo, |
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> it was *every* distro) would be so genuinely uninterested in what |
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> happens upstream, especially at a time where a downstream decision |
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> may carry a bit of extra weight. |
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> I do not want that. |
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> (Around the time this happened to me I wrote roughly the same in a |
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> private email to developers of another distribution which shall |
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> remain unnamed. I found that email in a pastebin a few days later.) |
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> It is long since clear to me that I have much too high expectations |
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> on people. |
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> But are you *REALLY* not able to do *any* better than "default will |
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> be what major distros use" ? |
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> Seriously? |
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Seriously you should take a deep breath, walk a dog maybe :) |
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regards |
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MM |
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