Re: [gentoo-dev] Please use land-misc herd where appropriate! No no-herd madness!!!

[foser]

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 17:16 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote:
> First thank you for your in depth explanation.
> Unfortunately I don't think we are any closer to being able to solve the
> problem of when an ebuild does not fit into any existing herds or when a
> maintainer is not apart of what would perhaps be a fitting herd.

Then an appropriate herd should be found or created.

> So I'd like to semi (un)officially like to propose a new herd called
> 'no-herd' in which either every dev automatically becomes apart of or
> that nobody is apart of. Said herd will not have a bugzilla email alias
> or a mailing list unless we have a maintainers motivated enough to
> actually want to get mail for no-herd. no-herd will have no lead and
> would simply become the official preferred placeholder for metadata.xml
> files till such time as a fitting herd is found, or if a fitting herd
> exists but a maintainer is not apart of the existing herd and or a dev
> does not want to be apart of a herd for the sake of an ebuild or two
> which (s)he can maintain better than an existing herd.

A maintainer does not need to be part of the (2nd) maintaining herd.
Only now when the maintainer disappears (it happens), there's always a
herd (group of devs) to fall back upon.

> As we saw on (I think) this mailing list not so long ago devs were
> assigning ebuilds to herds which they were not apart of and this caused
> problems for people of those herds.

Thats a mistake by those devs, you cannot assign something without
consent ever.

> Not having this placeholder herd in my minds would result in less
> metadata files being added to the tree or more devs declaring themselves
> as the herd.

Not adding metadata is against policy iirc & if it isn't it should be
against policy (someone write that down). Devs declaring themselves as
herd (!?) are breaking the format, this is really a matter of education.
I've never seen the latter though.

- foser