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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:45:47
Message-Id: CAGfcS_nHnmrXWzDqbS=UduCry7BGXmanNt9Z+KEbPTH3Wwvr+w@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed by Tobias Klausmann
1 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tobias Klausmann <klausman@g.o> wrote:
2 > Thing is that SRCD does a lot more things than our mini ISO does.
3 > As a result, keeping it going on half a dozen architectures is
4 > more work than maintaining our arguably very simple images. There
5 > is a reason why we abandoned making the "fat" install images a
6 > while back and now only do them as one-offs for special events
7 > (like the 10y anniversary).
8
9 Tend to agree. To install Gentoo you really just need a shell, the
10 ability to partition and create filesystems, some basic networking
11 (even that is somewhat optional), and a text editor. Sure, a browser
12 and such is a real nice-to-have, as would be something nicer than
13 nano, but you really don't need them to install Gentoo.
14
15 You really don't need much more than a kernel and busybox to be honest.
16
17 There is no reason that we have to use the same install media on all
18 arch's, though it does simplify the docs. It also isn't that
19 important to update the install media so quickly. If we just kept an
20 archive of our old autobuilds when they break we could just leave the
21 last known good copy up until things are straightened out.
22
23 I'd put more priority on up-to-date stage3s. It is a real pain if
24 you're doing an install and the first thing you're doing is updating
25 udev and migrating to kmod, or whatever and having to deal with
26 eselect news. Users should at least get to use the system for 5
27 minutes before dealing with that stuff, especially if a few big
28 changes have queued up...
29
30 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed Ben Kohler <bkohler@×××××.com>