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On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:24 +0100 |
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Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: |
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> > +1; to summarize my thoughts: Herds misrepresent manpower. |
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> true and false. |
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More true than false. |
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> undertakers often remove dead herds. |
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How often? What is considered dead? How about semi-dead? How about the |
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misrepresented ones? Are metrics like commit and bug ratios considered? |
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Relevant: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/258463 |
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> And herds in need for more people should really make use of this wiki |
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> page |
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> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs |
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They do and don't. |
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Those that do, are drowned in a long list that rarely attracts new devs; |
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those that don't, don't have time for it as they are drowned in work. |
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The recruitment process is too lengthy compared to the amount of |
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people that can actively recruit new developers; as a result, this |
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contributes to the rarity of attracting new developers to that list. |
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This lengthy process is also unattractive to new recruiters; whom are |
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not kept in the loop when showing interest, eg. I've watched a few |
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sessions and then heard nothing (because there barely are recruiters?). |
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If we want to thrive, both the student and recruiter recruitment |
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processes need to be revised; at this moment, 13 students are in the |
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queue. Some of them have been waiting for weeks or months... |
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> how do you expect to get more people on board if you don't make it |
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> known where help is actually needed? |
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This acknowledges that the herds concept hides where help is needed; |
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but as revealed in the last paragraphs, that's not the only problem. |
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