Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

[Daniel Campbell]

On 05/14/2016 01:23 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
>> On 14/05/16 18:52, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 1:07 PM, landis blackwell
>>> <blackwelllandis@×××××.com> wrote:
>>>> No fun allowed
>>>>
>>> Are you saying that you don't want people to have fun developing
>>> Gentoo?  Or are you trying to say that it is impossible to have fun
>>> developing Gentoo without insulting strangers?  I don't think anybody
>>> minds two friends teasing each other.
>>>
>> I think my gut feeling would go "there's a time and a place..." .. and
>> err on the g-dev ML probably not being it .. unless everyone else is in
>> on the 'joke' ..
>>
>
> Sure, and just to be clear I don't think we should be bothered by
> informality and joking around.  If you have a good relationship with
> somebody and poking at each other is just how you relate, you can get
> away with it.  We shouldn't have to walk on eggshells, but it just
> seems like we get a lot of flames in general going around and IMO at
> least it seems like it makes the distro a bit less fun.
>
> Of course we shouldn't lower our standards for quality, and I suspect
> that most of the people who do commit mistakes to the tree would
> probably agree, at least when they're sober.  :)
>

I agree. Some of us have reputations for being hard to work with or
being misunderstood, and it would go a long way for us to try to be
honest and -- for lack of a better word -- nicer. I've not personally
experienced much of that, but I can understand why someone wouldn't want
to work with (on a volunteer basis, of course) someone calling them
stupid or incompetent.

Mistakes happen and I gladly fix anything I've screwed up. I could have
taken some of the criticism personally due to the tone, however, if I
hadn't been 'seasoned' by the Internet to expect the worst.

That said, I like that those of us who are close can joke. We're all
volunteers, so why not have fun *while* we build what we think is the
ideal distro? I don't think quality and fun are mutually exclusive.

"at least when they're sober" -- I had a hearty laugh at that one. :)

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