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From: Jason Wever <weeve@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:09:20
Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.63.0505201356330.23057@stargazer.weeve.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time by Duncan Coutts
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4 On Fri, 20 May 2005, Duncan Coutts wrote:
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6 > Sorry folks this was my fault. I've sent my grovelling apology to the
7 > sparc team. Hopefully they'll accept my apologies and put my digressions
8 > down to me being a new dev. :-)
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10 You can only take some of the credit Duncan, but not all of it :)
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12 Every once and a while it seems a reminder such as this is needed as
13 people tend to start playing with package keywords when they shouldn't be.
14 It's kind of like guarding the cookie jar, you can't ever let your guard
15 down, even if you cut off everyone else's hands. I try not to point
16 fingers or name names since it's not something I like done to myself. I'd
17 also like to think that this gives such guilty parties a better
18 understanding of why the arch teams (and especially SPARC) can be so
19 maniacal about this sometimes, in hopes that it will lessen and/or prevent
20 this problem in the future.
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22 >From my perspective, if a package maintainer asks for testing and the
23 ability to keyword (i.e. Spanky asking me if it was OK to bump binutils to
24 2.16, to which I said yes) then that is fine. However adding or changing
25 keywords in an ebuild for which you cannot test (regardless of how trivial
26 the changes are or how "portable" the programming language of said package
27 is supposed to be) is really where I'm looking at here.
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29 For some odd reason, trying to ensure QA (even in the nicest of fashions)
30 seems to result in a majority of less than positive responses. Even
31 recently I've had a developer get quite confrontational with me over email
32 when I nicely asked him not to stabilize packages for which he could not
33 test (even if the changes were supposedly trivial). History has shown
34 that we cannot depend on assuming that trivial changes for me == works for
35 you if we want to have some level of Q in QA.
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37 Cheers,
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39 Jason Wever
40 Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time Brian Jackson <iggy@g.o>