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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:15:13
Message-Id: assp.036642070d.20170712111459.51b62aa2@o-sinc.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds by Sam Jorna
1 On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:03:00 +1000
2 Sam Jorna <wraeth@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On 13/07/17 00:19, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
5 > > It is YOUR comments that are funny, and going in a circular argument
6 > > just to be argumentative and bringing nothing useful to the
7 > > discussion. Which should be over now that bugs are filed....
8 >
9 > I'm not trying to be argumentative or antagonistic, I'm trying to
10 > understand how your replacement warning differs from what's already
11 > available and adds value.
12
13 It is similar to the warnings that exist now. To my knowledge, other
14 than generic messages that are always there, and a user is likely to
15 ignore as noise.
16
17 Nothing to my knowledge will tell you that someone was not removed
18 because it a was a dependency. Neither -c, nor -C does this. I get -C
19 maybe unware, but -c is not. Even when adding -v to -c, it does not
20 explicitly say the package was not removed because another needs it.
21 That is assumed, and IMHO the user is left wanting as previously stated.
22
23 > $ emerge -C apg
24 > * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer,
25 > use
26 > * `emerge -pv --depclean <atom>` to check for reverse dependencies
27 > before
28 > * removing packages.
29
30 That is my point. That message is always there. The chance that it is
31 ignored is very high.
32
33 > Clearly, hence why I was trying to understand what difference your
34 > proposal offered. But since we're moving on to serious things now, I
35 > guess I /am/ done with this thread.
36
37 I was proposing to provided further information to the user unique to
38 that situation. Not removing because it is a dependency.
39
40 --
41 William L. Thomson Jr.

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