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From: Mike Auty <ikelos@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] flamewars@gentoo-dev
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:42:55
Message-Id: 485AE0EB.4010904@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] flamewars@gentoo-dev by Ciaran McCreesh
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4 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
5 | And in amongst all of this, if you fight really really hard, you might,
6 | after several months and a whole lot of people trying to kill you,
7 | eventually get agreement upon some very minor technical point that's
8 | necessary to start getting somewhere.
9
10 So are you basically saying "You don't like fighting against Gentoo, and
11 Gentoo doesn't like fighting against you?". I think I might have a
12 mutually agreeable solution! 5:)
13
14 And yet still you keep fighting? Why? What do you *need* from Gentoo
15 that you can't get for yourself? A user base? A huge archive of
16 ebuilds ready and working? A large set of mostly silent developers to
17 maintain those ebuilds?
18
19 There's a neat little project called Exherbo you might have heard of.
20 It's trying to build up most of those things, and they don't put up with
21 incompetent, unknowledgeable people, so I'm sure they'll let you in, and
22 I'm sure you'll be happy there.
23
24 Yet still, you seem to *need* something from Gentoo. Given that, it's
25 bizarre that you're repeatedly disrespectful to members of its
26 community. It seems an odd tactic to present yourself so poorly when
27 you're in need of something...
28
29 Obviously Gentoo is taking up a lot of your time (simply time writing
30 replies to most every point raised on a thread), and you often seem
31 frustrated by the level of people you have to work with. So perhaps you
32 should direct your extensive energies exclusively at Exherbo?
33
34 I'm quite happy to continue working in a friendly helpful environment,
35 where simple questions are most often met with patient answers and
36 people are given the chance to learn, improve and help out where they
37 can. I'm happy to keep quietly maintaining my ebuilds and let the
38 people whose packages I package come up with the new stuff. You don't
39 seem to be, so perhaps this isn't the right place for you to contribute?
40 ~ If you do want to contribute, perhaps you could consider the
41 environment you're working in, and be more accommodating to it rather
42 than fighting against it?
43
44 Mike 5:)
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