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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:06:48
Message-Id: 1515611196.1284.15.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list by Matt Turner
1 W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
2 napisał:
3 > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
5 > > napisał:
6 > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
7 > > > > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement
8 > > > > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1].
9 > > > >
10 > > > > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will come into
11 > > > > effect on 23 January 2018.
12 > > > >
13 > > > > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is now.
14 > > > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers and
15 > > > > whitelisted additional participants.
16 > > > > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We intend this
17 > > > > to be as unbureaucratic as possible.
18 > > > > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour against the
19 > > > > Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting permission.
20 > > > >
21 > > > > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on
22 > > > > gentoo-dev,
23 > > > > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her to
24 > > > > forward your message,
25 > > > > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you whitelisted.
26 > > > >
27 > > > > If, as a developer, you want to have someone whitelisted, please comment on
28 > > > > bug 644070 [3]. Similar to Bugzilla editbugs permission, if you are vouching
29 > > > > for a contributor you are expected to keep an eye on their activity.
30 > > >
31 > > > It seems like the obvious way this fails is some Gentoo developer acks
32 > > > one of the problem people. I don't think that's particularly unlikely.
33 > > > Then what do we do?
34 > > >
35 > >
36 > > Then it becomes comrel business.
37 >
38 > If that was an effective solution, wouldn't the problem already be solved?
39
40 One of the problems mentioned before was that a person could easily
41 evade the ban via subscribing from another e-mail address. In this case
42 it's no longer possible, as he would need to obtain the vouching for his
43 new e-mail address, and for that he would first have to have something
44 positive to post.
45
46 Of course this relies on developers not vouching for new people out of
47 the blue but expecting them to have something to contribute first.
48
49 --
50 Best regards,
51 Michał Górny

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