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From: Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 22: New "keyword" system to incorporate various userlands/kernels/archs
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:19:48
Message-Id: 200403100118.07186.jstubbs@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 22: New "keyword" system to incorporate various userlands/kernels/archs by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Wednesday 10 March 2004 00:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 12:47:26 +0900 Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
3 >
4 > wrote:
5 > | Of course, this idea is based on dropping ~arch and arch altogether. I
6 > | don't have a non-x86 arch (yet!) but as far as I know most software
7 > | will work with no modification.
8 >
9 > Uhm, not really. I think you should get a non-x86/amd64 box before you
10 > make that kind of statement, preferably of the non-PCI variety. I
11 > suggest either sun4m or mips.
12
13 For the benefit of others, here's a discussion between myself and Ciaran that
14 followed this email:
15
16 [00:55:26] <jstubbs> ciaranm: are the "alt" archs really so sensitive? i would
17 think that 99% of software outside sys-apps would work with no problems..
18 [00:55:36] <ciaranm> jstubbs: more like 50%
19 [00:55:53] <jstubbs> ciaranm: really.. ah, well. that kills my 'solution'.
20 [00:56:20] <ciaranm> jstubbs: heck, even some things which look like they
21 can't possibly break don't work without patching
22 [00:57:24] <jstubbs> ciaranm: still, perhaps maintiaining a per-arch
23 package.mask would be easier than what is essentially a distributed per-arch
24 package.unmask..
25 [00:57:34] <ciaranm> jstubbs: no way dude
26 [00:57:55] <ciaranm> jstubbs: you might as well say the same about everything
27 [00:58:27] <ciaranm> jstubbs: use cascading profiles, have, say, a
28 sparc-netbsd-uclib profile, and just use package.mask there, and abolish all
29 kinds of keywording
30 [00:58:31] <ciaranm> jstubbs: it'd be a nightmare to maintain
31 [01:00:53] <jstubbs> ciaranm: i didn't think of that, but my first instinct is
32 that it would be easier to maintain with your, erm, suggestion.. i'll ponder
33 it further before continuing, though.
34 [01:01:23] <ciaranm> jstubbs: you like maintaining text files with several
35 thousand entries?
36 [01:01:42] <ciaranm> jstubbs: and how would you do change control with just
37 one big file?
38
39 It's given me more ideas (for what they're worth) but I'd like to know more
40 about the other archs before making a further fool of myself. ;)
41
42 For the non-x86 architectures that you (=anybody) own, what percentage of
43 software would you say requires patching?
44
45 Regards,
46 Jason Stubbs
47
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