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On 07/30/2012 11:04 AM, Michael Mol wrote: |
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> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> |
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>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400 Michael Orlitzky |
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>> <michael@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: |
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>>>> No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a |
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>>>> default. |
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>>> The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a |
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>>> bias towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey and choose |
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>>> the most common utf8 response? |
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>> How can you take a survey like that? How will you ensure it |
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>> actually hits the majority? How will you define the majority? |
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> Serverside script on gentoo.org. Push out a news item with the URL |
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> and a last-call date. Tabulate the results, using browser |
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> fingerprints to weed out the bulk of duplicates. |
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I still advocate continuing how we have been. |
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However, the survey should be one question: What is the output of |
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`locale' on your workstation/desktop/laptop? |
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The less painful we make the survey, the more respondents we'll get, |
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and the less biased the results will be. Additionally, it makes the |
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responses easy to parse with a script. |
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Servers are excluded because special things take place there that may |
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not actually line up with what the user prefers. |
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If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should |
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then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to |
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a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default |
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locale set to the country of origin, which in our case is the United |
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States. |
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Yes, it may irk those whose native locale is not en_US.UTF-8, but like |
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I said, no one will be happy. Except for those whose native locale |
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happens to be the default. |
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Start at a default, doesn't really matter which as long as the default |
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is the lingua franca of international business, and instruct the user, |
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as we already do, how to change it during the setup. |
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Mr. Aaron W. Swenson |
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Gentoo Linux Developer |
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Email : titanofold@g.o |
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