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Hi! |
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I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. I should have |
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made my comments more explicit. |
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On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 04:10, Juergen Ilse wrote: |
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> > I also have a somewhat related question. Gentoo Linux doesn't seem to set a |
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> > global LD_LIBRARY_PATH environmental variable like most mainstream linux |
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> > distributions (RedHat, Debian, etc.) do. |
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> It is unnecessary. Using LD_LIBRARY_PATH is also dangerous. It is nothing |
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> more than a workaround (except for cases, where a user wants to use his |
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> own libraries, which are not installed at the "official places). |
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> The "clean way" is to include the library-directories in /etc/ld.so.conf |
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> and to use "ldconfig" to update the cache-file (in this case, setting |
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> LD_LIBRARY_PATH should be unnecessary for using the system-libraries). |
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I agree. |
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> > I far as I can tell, this is a _good_ thing. |
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> I don't think so. |
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I meant it is a _good_ thing that Gentoo Linux does _not_ use |
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH. |
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> > (see http://www.visi.com/~barr/ldpath.html). |
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> It looks to me, that the author of this website thinks, that "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" |
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> ist a very bad idea at all ... |
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Exactly, which is why I cited the webpage. It seems to explain why |
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH should not bet used well. |
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> > However, some applications look for this variable. |
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> If an application itself (not only the shared library loader) looks for |
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> LD_LIBRARY_PATH, may be this application is *broken* ... |
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> > Is there a way, around this? Specifically, I've been looking into Webmin |
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> > (http://www.webmin.com/webmin/), and trying to work up some gentoo config |
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> > files for it. The top level config file seems to want LD_LIBRARY_PATH. |
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> Than fix this config file or fix the application. *DON'T TRY TO FIX THINGS |
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> THAT ARE NOT BROKEN!* Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH globally will IMHO do so ... |
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Let me provide a little more information. Webmin is a web application |
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for configuring and administering Unix boxes remotely. It is |
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essentially a bunch of perl scripts. |
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> > At least that is what is in the config files for the other |
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> > distributions. |
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> Not all, what you will find in other distributions is really good ... |
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Here is an example top-level config file for Redhat: |
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******config-redhat-linux****** |
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find_pid_command=ps auwwwx | grep NAME | grep -v grep | awk '{ print $2 |
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}' |
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path=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
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ld_env=LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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In fact, the toplevel webmin config files for redhat, debian, mandrake, |
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slackeware, suse, and linux from scratch as well at openbsd, netbsd and |
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even soloaris all have ld_env=LD_LIBRARY_PATH (the path variable changes |
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though). Interestingly, the solaris config also uses |
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ld_path=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/usr/dt/lib which isn't in the |
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linux configs. |
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Let me sum up. I am not saying that Gentoo Linux should or even needs |
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH. I am just trying to figure out how to configure webmin |
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for Gentoo. It should be relatively painless because all you need to do |
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is add config-gentoo-linux files describing the Gentoo environment to |
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the top-level and the module subdirectories. I just happen to be stuck |
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on how to set ld_env. Webmin is actually a very nice application, so I |
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think it is worth it. |
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tod |
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