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On 12/08/2012 06:50 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o> wrote: |
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>> I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a |
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>> stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a couple of |
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>> problems with the tree. |
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> Ditto - the latest issue I've run into is: 443472. Probably won't |
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> impact the average user, and perhaps I should just modify the script |
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> to not bother reading that file and figure out what the latest build |
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> is on its own. |
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>> |
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>> I think we should consider things that break release media serious |
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>> regressions. I don't know what that entails specifically, but whether |
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>> it need be QA bashing down your door or a quick fix or revert, it sure |
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>> would be nice to get Gentoo to a place where release media always |
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>> works. |
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> Agreed. If a user can't just burn a CD and then do an emerge kde-meta |
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> there is a problem. |
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>> |
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>> In short, I think the conversation we should be having should be about |
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>> how to avoid breaking release builds and how to quickly fix problems |
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>> when they're discovered. |
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> I think those working with catalyst have the most to add regarding |
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> what breaks them. |
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> As far as detect-ability goes, do we need some kind of tinderbox that |
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> just does a daily build. Perhaps just build from stage3 to a couple |
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> of world targets, including one with some server-oriented software, |
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> one with gnome, and one with kde? I've reported a bunch of bugs with |
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> the EC2 bootstrap script described on my blog (not my original work), |
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> but it is only automated from a build perspective - testing is manual. |
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> That takes about 18 hours to build (with an emphasis on economy), and |
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> I use spot instances so it really only costs maybe a buck or two. |
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I build about ~1300 packages for amd64 and x86 nearly every day from a |
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fresh snapshot. I'm working on automating it so it really is every day. |
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Once it is automated I suppose I can add kde-meta to the list, even |
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though... well... it's kde. |
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- -Zero |
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> My experience has been that if it builds it usually works. So, simply |
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> testing for whether the build completes is a pretty-good first step. |
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> Of course, for system packages our recourse isn't necessarily good, |
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> since we don't have a test branch or anything like that. If we wanted |
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> to revert we'd have to impact users who already upgraded. Obviously |
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> the goal would be to fix in place with a new revbump, assuming that |
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> were possible. |
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> Rich |
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