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wireless posted on Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:29:52 -0400 as excerpted: |
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> I just used the latest version of pentoo-installer. |
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> Quick recon: The only difference is make.conf is in /etc/portage/ ? |
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AFAIK, that's recommended for gentoo portage now too[1], tho there's |
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backward compatibility code in place to handle /etc/make.conf as well. |
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(That's my real reason for response, the below comments simply there |
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because I already am responding.) |
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> Anyone thought of just testing the pentoo-installer to install gentoo, |
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> quick and easy? I just think there should be a basic, easy install for |
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> gentoo. Pentoo offers that based on hardened (tool-chain and kernel). |
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> If there is a glaring problem with Pentoo, please post or drop me |
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> private email. The only problem I see is that it does not offer ZFS in |
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> the menu during installation. |
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AFAIK once you start shipping binaries (as an installer with that choice |
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would be doing) you end up in a legal gray area due to Sun-now-Oracle's |
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refusal to GPL the ZFS code. Some would therefore consider that lack a |
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feature, not a bug.[3] =:^) |
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> Another idea: What flags and configs would I have to change, if any, |
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> to keep the hardened tool-chain and kernel, but otherwise convert the |
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> Pentoo installation into a Gentoo system ? |
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> Or is Pentoo, just a specific needs gentoo installation? |
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I'd consider it the latter. It's available as a gentoo overlay[2], at |
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least, thereby pretty much fitting the definition. |
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[1] The handbook even specifies /etc/portage/make.conf now, see |
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http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=5#doc_chap3 |
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[2] At least, that's what wikipedia claims (keeping in mind |
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my stated reason for responding, I've no personal knowledge of |
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pentoo, so...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentoo |
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[3] One of the great things about the manual installation method |
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is that it's so open-ended; the handbooks document reasonable |
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defaults, but they're just that, reasonable defaults, leaving the |
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user free to branch out and do their own thing wherever they feel |
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the want/need, and we even document some of those branches in |
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separate documentation such as the alternate install guide. As |
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such, we can avoid the political debates and choices a more |
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featureful graphical installer could trigger, this being one of them. |
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Of course unofficial based-on/specific-needs subdistros such as |
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pentoo can do what they want, independent of gentoo. |
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So let's just not go into the whole zfs thing further, |
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and agree to leave it at that. =:^) |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |