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From: Francesco Riosa <BastianBalthazarBux@×××××××××.it>
To: gentoo-hardened@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Which hardened (SUB)project
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:51:58
Message-Id: 455B45FF.9010501@pnpitalia.it
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Which hardened (SUB)project by Steev Klimaszewski
1 Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
2 > Francesco Riosa wrote:
3 >> Brian Davis wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> Francesco Riosa wrote:
6 >>>> Brian Davis wrote:
7 >>>>
8 >>>>> The only comment I'll make is that Reiserfs doesn't support SELinux.
9 >>>>>
10 >>>> That it's "non issue" for a new server, reiser3 is getting obsolete,
11 >>>> it's advantages are not enough to try the risk,
12 >>> Why do you say that?
13 >> - upstream has serious real life troubles
14 >> - SuSE is not anymore so interested in reiser3
15 >> - a continuously changing linux kernel may lock a reiser user to an old
16 >> version (pain for a security oriented system)
17 >> - ext3 evolving and becoming ext4 in a reasonable mount of time
18 >> - major advantages only with _many_ files in one single directory
19 >>
20 >> don't get me wrong I liked and still like reiserfs but it's time is gone
21 >>
22 >
23 > I've been lurking on this list for a while, running a couple of
24 > hardened servers, and the Gentoo guidelines for servers suggest reiser
25 > as the fs. I guess my couple of questions are,
26 >
27 > 1) What does what SUSE's interest in reiser have to do with anything?
28 > (Serious question here, not an attempt at a troll, I really am curious
29 > as I don't follow along very closely)
30 And it's a good question, reiserfs is opensource and so the interest of
31 only a subject (SuSE) is moot, but my feelings are the the community is
32 not any more interested in support reiser3 very much (obviously speaking
33 of feelings this opinion is moot too ).
34 Peter Volkov has already pointed out why and when SuSE decided to choose
35 other roads (may worth read it).
36 >
37 > 2) Is there anything other than backing up a partition, and mkfs'ing
38 > to a different format? I.E. some type of conversion utility for
39 > reiserfs->other format?
40 No, but backup and restore is not something that someone want to
41 schedule expecially with a great amount of data
42 , it may take hours (days) and the fact that you must consider it
43 choosing reiserfs3 now is still a detractive point.
44
45
46 People, this look like no more an "gentoo-hardened" issue, wont to end
47 the discussion (if needed) via private mail?
48 if you chose that, please write to "francesco"at"pnpitalia".it it's more
49 likely to get an answer.
50 sorry for the spam
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