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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:34:14 +0200 Tóth Attila wrote: |
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> 2017.Április 29.(Szo) 20:43 időpontban Daniel Cegiełka ezt írta: |
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> >> That's the part I don't get either. Since the only possible motivation |
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> >> I can think of for this move is to generate more income, they could've |
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> >> at least tried asking the community for donations first. |
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> > It's more complex: |
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> > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/27/grsecurity/ |
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> > I don't judge them. I'm interested in the future of projects that were |
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> > heavily dependent on PaX (Gentoo Hardened, Alpine Linux). |
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> I also have concernes about the future of Gentoo Hardened userspace. |
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> Security initiatives drew my attention 15+ years ago, when Adamantix was |
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> alive. After discontinuation of the project I've discovered Gentoo |
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> Hardened as something providing a remedy for security-aware refugees. Over |
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> the years I get used to the infrastructure of Daniel Robbins' Gentoo and |
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> experienced the benefits of the rolling release nature of the distro and |
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> all those simple compile time tools provides to the power users. |
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> When you go hardened, you cant stop it. |
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> I wish Hardened Gentoo survives and continue to exist for long. |
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The only way to preserve this functionality in the long run is to |
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port it to the mainline kernel. This will not be easy, most likely |
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not everything will be accepted, some stuff will have to be |
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reimplemented using another approaches, etc. |
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But there is no other way. GrSec/PaX team can be trusted no longer. |
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They ruined all 16 years of good and trustworthy record by what was |
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done 3 days ago, though the first bells rang 2 years ago when paid |
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subscription for stable patches was enforced. Even if they will |
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yield to the community pressure now, they may repeat this betrayal |
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later and thus can be trusted no longer. |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |