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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-kernel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:40:52
Message-Id: 20130625013756.7a16c197@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions by Greg KH
1 On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:27:10 -0700
2 Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 08:45:25AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
5 > True, so we can keep around 3-4 older ebuilds if needed, per kernel
6 > release. But who really does a dependency clean these days, I've
7 > never done one :)
8
9 Depends a bit on your workflow; in my case, I ...
10
11 1) Update my system on a daily basis.
12 2) Test many packages I don't actively use, typical on some herds.
13 3) Test many kernels, each having their own slot; leaving stuff behind.
14 4) Randomly emerge interesting software to try it; I usually do this
15 with -1 so I don't forget to unmerge them, supposing I dep clean.
16
17 Especially those cases where there are dependency changes (whether
18 the dependency is no longer used or the slot changed) a lot of
19 dependencies (and some packages) can be left behind.
20
21 So, I do have to run it now and then or it will clog my system; not to
22 forget about the many other non Portage creep that could fill up.
23
24 > So, what's the next step? Should I announce the change to -dev?
25
26 I wonder if a news item is in place for this change, because we will
27 be dropping all stable keywords. If I remember correctly news items
28 have to pass the -dev ML. On the other hand, I don't really have an
29 idea of how important this issue is to be considered; though it may be
30 handy to err on the side of being more transparent towards our users.
31
32 > Anyone else really object to it? Other thoughts?
33
34 I thought the idea of not stabilizing worked out the best, dropping
35 insecure and EOL versions and keeping the versions from the last month
36 of each branch around or so (we do this very last thing on g-s too).
37
38 No objections from me.
39
40 --
41 With kind regards,
42
43 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
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