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On 07/05/2018 07:03 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: |
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> Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. |
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> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, 19:51 M. J. Everitt, <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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>> I'd like to discuss the possibility of harmonising the bumping and |
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>> stabilisation process across the currently maintained source packages, |
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>> so that, in principle, whilst they may not be fully supported via |
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>> Security Team (we already have disclaimers for this), users choosing to |
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>> opt for, eg. ck-sources, would know that because 90% of the code-base |
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>> has been 'approved' via gentoo-sources (upstream + gentoo patches) that |
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>> any discrepancy due to failure could be quickly narrowed down to the |
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>> patchset, and the relevant maintainer can choose to pursue with their |
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>> specific upstream. The extent to which this is feasible can be debated, |
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>> but if we can establish a basic procedure that is, eg. automated, |
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>> perhaps individual maintainers will want to 'pitch in' if the effort |
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>> required is minimal enough. |
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>> The objective would be to create a obvious 'choice' of "known-good"ish |
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>> kernels that any user could choose from, whilst preserving maintainer |
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>> workflow separation, etc. |
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> not sure to have understand correctly. |
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> you want to stabilize also ck-sources? |
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> there is not only the new patchset but is also using different kernel |
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> eclass function. |
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> I think when we can do stabilization from the Gentoo kernel ci starting to |
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> stabilize also other sources would be a path to consider. |
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> thanks, |
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> Alice |
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I'd prefer waiting until QA / CI is solid before any |
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discussion to stabilize sys-kernel/ck-sources. I'm not |
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opposed per-se, but there's only so much testing I can do |
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on my own (this is why I need to know the QA / CI tools |
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are working well for several months I think). If there's |
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sufficient testing (to know when things are stable) then |
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sure, I think it might be okay to try for in 1st or 2nd |
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quarter 2019. |
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3rd quarter 2018 I'm still "spread thin", and my |
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availability is limited this weekend. In the meantime I'll |
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do what I can to familiarize myself with lava. I'll be |
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using my own infrastructure for testing, and hope to have |
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some practical experience and ideas by the end of July. |
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-- kuza |