Gentoo Archives: gentoo-laptop

From: Sad Jack <sadjack45@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-laptop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-laptop] Install problems
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:23:52
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-laptop] Install problems by Ryan Viljoen
Ryan Viljoen wrote:
> If you can spare some space than I think the best way to do this would > be to install Gentoo from your existing Fedora install as Josh > suggested. Than use lshw, lspci and lsusb to manually configure your > own kernel to your hardware requirements without having to worry about > auto detection. > > An interesting point though, when install gentoo on my friends > notebook we had a similar problem of the install CD hanging and not > getting passed a point (during hardware detection) not matter how long > we left it. Luckily I had the 2004.1, 2004.3 and 2005.0 install cd's. > The 2004.1 install CD worked perfectly getting through all the > hardware detection. Once installed an emerge sync and a change in > profile and his install was sorted. So I dont know if you tried > different versions of the gentoo install cd but if not maybe track > down an older on? (2004.1 possibly). > > Other than that I wish you luck. I would also cry if I had to use "the > distro that most wants to be like windows" *sigh* ... hshsh sorry > couldnt resist. > > Cheers > Rav > > On 6/1/05, Sad Jack <sadjack45@××××××××××.uk> wrote: > >>Sad Jack wrote: >> >>>Josh Hunholz wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If you have FC3 up and running, why not just install Gentoo from that? >>>>Make a new partition and copy the Gentoo tarball into it. Then chroot into >>>>in and install! It's quite easy to do it that way. :) >>>> >>>>--Josh Hunhol >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Sad Jack wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Cliff Rowley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Sad Jack wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Whenever I try and boot from the install CD (the same one used to >>>>>>>>install on my desktop, the current universal 2005) installation hangs >>>>>>>>after 'ok installing the kernel'. Nothing seems to happen, no disk >>>>>>>>access (CD or Hard drive). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I've tried other distros..Suse, Ubuntu, Puppy, the only one that gets >>>>>>>>me >>>>>>>>passed the above is Slackware 10.1 which goes through the complete >>>>>>>>install but cannot write lilo to boot. Just says it can't write and >>>>>>>>says >>>>>>>>to do it manually. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is there some kind of boot or virus protection switched on in your BIOS? >>>>>>>Perhaps something that prevents the boot loader from being >>>>>>>overwritten? Although that doesn't explain the detection weirdness. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Only thing I can think of, aside from some funky unsupported hardware. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I get the feeling that its at the hardware detection stage that is the >>>>>>>>problem as live CD's when booted in failsafe load and work OK. I can't >>>>>>>>find a failsafe option to boot Gentoo, is there one? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hmm interesting. Maybe if you could boot Slackware 10.1 or boot the >>>>>>>livecd's in failsafe and save your dmesg output it might provide some >>>>>>>more insight (maybe). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for the replies. >>>>>> >>>>>>some interesting suggestions there especially about the bios. Can't >>>>>>check it just now as I'm mid way through installing Fedora Core 3 which >>>>>>at least is installing the packages same as Slacware 10.1. Not got to >>>>>>the stage where grub is written yet, so heres fingers crossed that at >>>>>>least I will get some form of linux on this thing. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'll check out the bios as soon as it reboots >>>>>> >>>>>>Cheers >>>>> >>>>>OK >>>>> >>>>>FC 3 is loaded and running. Grub was installed and works fine. >>>>> >>>>>FC3 has not detected the graphics or the screen correctly and at the >>>>>moment I am stuck with 800x600 resolution or lower. >>>>> >>>>>I would suggest at this stage its a hardware detection problem with the >>>>>other distro and that FC3 is a little more accomodating! >>>>> >>>>>Its not my preferred install and I'll keep looking for a way to get >>>>>gentoo so if there are any more suggestions, please keep them coming! >>>>> >>>>>By the way there is no settings in the bios that cause a problem with >>>>>writing the bootloader. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks again >>>>>-- >>>>>gentoo-laptop@g.o mailing list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Thanks Josh >>> >>>I've been away for a few days so things have not changed much! I'll give >>>your suggestion a go. >> >> >>A big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to try and help me >>with this install. Still no luck however! >> >>Everytime the installation starts to look for hardware it hangs just >>after Ok installing the kernel. Josh I tried your suggestion but managed >>to get myself in knotts and crashed and burned. Never mind. I'm still >>learning. >> >>I was wondering, is there a way to pass a command to the install process >>to tell it not to detect hardware? I feel sure this is the issue. As I >>have to dual boot with XP for work reasons and wish to use gentoo for >>personal ones, I don't need all the tricked out kit to run under gentoo. >> Some simple apps under kde is all i need. I can always take my time >>with the other stuff. >> >>Fedora is ok but..... >> >> >>-- >>gentoo-laptop@g.o mailing list >> >> > > >
Right, a little red faced I have found that entering 'gentoo noapic' at the boot prompt takes me to a command line. I thought I'd tried all the options on the CD but this one must have slipped me by. I have now got to the stage of having everything installed and I'm just trying to figure out how best to install grub, my first attempt resulted in a hanging system. Gentoo sees the hard drive as /dev/sda for some reason. Just to complicate things the drive is partitioned as sda1 - restore partition used by the recovery disk. sda2 - windows xp I currently have sda4 as an extended partition with sda5 as /boot, sda6 as /swap and sda7 as /. sda8 is a fat32 logical partition for shared data. It seems I have some reading to do! My apologies if I've put anyone out. -- gentoo-laptop@g.o mailing list