Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nominations
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:07:41
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nominations by "William L. Thomson Jr."
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 14:37 -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Being as it's already January 27th: > > Yes, it wasn't expected days would go by with no response. So picking > any new dates is kinda pointless till we know when they will be > commented on. > > > Nominations start Jan 30th through Feb 12th, > > Elections Feb 13th through 27th, new Trustees in march ;) > > No problem, unless we don't hear from Grant by the 30th. Then we reset > again and push back/delay some more.
Umm... how about "from now until the 12th" so we can just start and not wait for Grant. No offense, but this whole "we have to wait for $foo to comment" is why we're very much in this boat in the first place. Do any of you seriously think that Grant is going to have some sort of objection to the *dates* in which the election is held? Also, votes can be called by the Foundation membership without Trustee approval. I'm a Foundation member. I say we call this vote, starting nominations now, ending the 12th, voting from the 13th through the 27th. There, now it's official. Can we start nominating now? *grin*
> Or any date, even if we don't agree. As most all want the date to come > from the trustees.
Quit looking to the trustees for everything. That is *also* how we got into this mess. We're perfectly capable of doing quite a lot without the trustees, so long as we are acting on their behalf or acting on the behalf of the Foundation. As a Foundation member, one's vote counts exactly the same as a trustee, except in cases where the board must make a decision, which is generally only done as "proxy" to keep from having to constantly poll the membership. As opposed to the Council, which is purely a "representative government" the trustees more directly answer to the membership. The members are the real voters. The trustees just work on their behalf to save time. If the trustees do something the membership doesn't like, the membership can vote and veto it and the trustees cannot do a thing. They don't have any real special powers, other than what they're granted. This is essentially the opposite of the Council, which has *every* power except those that are explicitly denied. Anyway, at this point, we don't need to constantly wait on Grant except in cases where a signature is required or access to our finances is required. Remember, it was designed this way on purpose to not impede progress. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer


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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nominations "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nominations Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
[gentoo-nfp] Re: Trustee nominations Torsten Veller <tove@g.o>