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On 18-05-31 20:45:32, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> Hello, everyone. |
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> I have recently noticed that Trustees have been removing active Gentoo |
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> developers from the Foundation. This has at least taken place before |
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> the 2017/2018 Trustee election. I would therefore like to request |
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> Trustees to reply to that in context of Foundation Bylaws. |
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> To be more specific, Bylaw 4.4 states (emphasis mine): |
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> Section 4.4. Continuation of Membership |
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> *Full members who remain Gentoo developers shall have their |
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> membership continued until it is terminated in accordance |
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> with 4.8 or 4.9.* |
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> Full members who retire from the Gentoo project shall have there |
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> membership continued while they indicate that they remain interested |
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> in the affairs of the Foundation unless their membership is terminated |
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> in accordance with 4.8 or 4.9. |
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> Criteria for loss of interest in the foundation shall be determined by |
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> the trustees, from time to time. [1] |
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> For the record, 4.8 and 4.9 are, appropriately: |
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> Section 4.8. Voluntary Withdrawal from Membership |
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> Members may withdraw from membership in the foundation at any time |
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> upon thirty (30) days' written, signed notice delivered to an officer |
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> of the foundation, which notice may be by cryptographically signed |
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> electronic mail with a valid signature. |
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> Section 4.9. Termination from Membership. |
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> Membership may be terminated by a majority vote of the board of |
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> trustees in the event that any member acts contrary to the purpose(s) |
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> of the Gentoo Foundation. |
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> The Bylaws therefore clearly state that active Gentoo developers remain |
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> Foundation members until they *voluntarily* withdraw their membership, |
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> or act contrary to the purposes of Foundation. Removal as a result of |
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> 'loss of activity' applies only to retired developers. |
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> Now, in May of 2015 the Foundation member list have been updated with |
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> a number of members being removed (with no comment suggesting why |
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> the update took place) [2]. According to data on file (LDAP), among |
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> the removed Foundation members there were 10 active Gentoo developers |
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> at the time: |
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> - deathwing00 |
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> - djc |
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> - flameeyes |
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> - hattya |
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> - jkt |
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> - rafaelmartins |
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> - scarabeus |
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> - titanofold |
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> - xmw |
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> - yngwin |
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> Even if we assume that some of those people were already in process of |
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> being retired (or considered for retirement) at the time, this leaves 5 |
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> developers who are still active today. |
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> I have confirmed that the people listed above were also removed from |
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> voter list for 2017/2018 Trustee election [3]. Apparently the decision |
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> was made during the 20170326 meeting, and was approved by positive vote |
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> from all Trustees [4][5]. |
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> So why were you removing active Gentoo developers, contrary |
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> to the Bylaws? Were you unaware of Bylaws by which the Foundation |
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> operates? Or did you fail to verify the list? |
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> What should be done about developers who were unjustly removed? What |
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> should be done about Trustees elected in 2017/2018 election whose |
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> electorate was changed in violation of Bylaws? |
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> [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Bylaws |
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> [2]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Foundation:Member_List&diff=642628&oldid=627658 |
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> [3]:https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/elections.git/tree/completed/trustees-201707/voters-trustees-201707 |
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> [4]:https://projects.gentoo.org/foundation/2017/20170326.log.txt |
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> [5]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation_Talk:Meetings/2017/02 |
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What we did was legal, as it was affirmed by a vote (fulfilling 4.9). |
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Cause given was given in your 5th link, failure to vote signifying working |
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against the interests of the foundation. |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation_Talk:Meetings/2017/02 |
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It can (and likely will) be argued that is not enough for the kicked |
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people to be kicked, but the Trustees determined that it was enough. |
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Further, the kicked people were never disallowed from reapplying to the |
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foundation (but that's beside your point). |
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Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) |