Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Social contract and its effect on vendors and service delivery.
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 07:37:18
Message-Id: robbat2-20200627T072954-532431982Z@orbis-terrarum.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Social contract and its effect on vendors and service delivery. by Rich Freeman
1 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 04:32:24PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 4:17 PM Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
3 > >
4 > > Is it against the social contract to purchase these CDN services?
5 > > Is it against the social contract to purchase these CDN services, even if the services are provided via open source software?
6 > >
7 >
8 > IMO the obvious answer to the second question is that purchasing
9 > services that are provided using FOSS is absolutely permitted by the
10 > social contract. Obviously we should be careful with money, but we're
11 > allowed to spend money on services and in fact have done so in other
12 > cases (like paying for a bug bounty, for accounting services, etc -
13 > generally all using FOSS where it exists).
14 How much of the CDN provider's stack must be FOSS?
15 - Just the CDN software?
16 - The billing stack?
17 - everything in the company?
18
19 > I realize that you didn't want to get into the fiscal argument, but
20 > I'd toss in my two cents here: it seems like we have a lot of orgs
21 > that donate servers/etc and I know we're always getting requests on
22 > pr@ for "sponsors" (usually cash for SEO, but maybe some could offer
23 > actual hosting). I actually like depending on donations in kind a lot
24 > more than money because it tends to keep the org rooted in what serves
25 > the broader FOSS/etc community vs being an org that handles a lot of
26 > cash which can sometimes lose perspective.
27 Speaking as treasurer, In-kind donations require different handling than
28 Cash Donations; they're actually somewhere I feel we have some exposure
29 in case of future audit, because past in-kind sponsors generally did not
30 provide us with a good statement of the value of those in-kind services,
31 that might be needed for tax purposes.
32
33 However, I'd like to ask: What about donations of CDN services specifically?
34 CDN77 is one of the present sponsors (see my other mail in this thread).
35
36 I've been trying to reach out to Fastly (unsucessfully) to get a
37 sponsorship from them: their stack is based on Varnish, and offers
38 functionality that CDN77 doesn't: lots more endpoints, IPv6, API for
39 uploading certs
40
41 >
42 > --
43 > Rich
44 >
45
46 --
47 Robin Hugh Johnson
48 Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer
49 E-Mail : robbat2@g.o
50 GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85
51 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136

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