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On 17-04-2018 02:11, Daniel Robbins wrote: |
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> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o> |
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> wrote: |
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>> 2. Formally give comrel rights to moderate the list, pursuant to the |
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>> CoC. Moderate in this case means enact warnings/bans with reason given. |
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>> 2.1. The reason given needs to be public (not sure about this) |
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>> 2.2. Those having actions enacted against them are able to appeal to the |
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>> trustees. |
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> This by itself does not appear to be legal. You can't have some independent |
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> entity policing a mailing list run for Foundation member communication. |
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> There is no clear connection between Foundation and ComRel, no |
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> accountability of ComRel to the user community, etc, etc. This needs to be |
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> resolved first. |
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I don't see why the Foundation can't decide to allow the entity (not |
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necessarily ComRel as I've expressed in the other post in this thread) |
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that enforces CoC to do the same on the nfp mailing list. |
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Also, acknowledging that nfp is a special ml, the rules can make it |
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clear that any actions on the nfp can be appealed to the Trustees. |
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In my view, it's up to the Trustees / Foundation members, if they want |
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any moderation in the nfp ml, if / what rules need to be followed in the |
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ml and who is going to enforce them. |
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> Furthermore, "warnings/bans" are not an appropriate way to *moderate* a |
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> mailing list. We don't need a mailing list secret police that pounce |
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> through a door like the "Spanish Inquisition" Monty Python sketch. |
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ComRel in this area is enforcing the CoC as it was tasked with that job |
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by Council after the Proctors were disbanded and a long time without |
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anyone enforcing the CoC. There have been attempts to revive the |
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Proctors so that they deal with the CoC again and ComRel goes back to |
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take care of the more severe issues. |
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The actions you're talking about (bans and warnings) follow the CoC[1] |
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and are explicitly mentioned in the "consequences" section. |
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[1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct |
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> -Daniel |
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Regards, |
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Jorge |
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